Chwech o sylwadau ar “(English) Is Wales a Tory Country?

  1. Enoch Powell was once my MP, members of my family met him many times so I think I know of him better than you.

    He would be very unlikely to support the aim of partitioning Britain and to call him a ”Welshman” as you did would be to call most of the ”black country” – ”Welsh” or ”Irish” which i’m sure you wouldn’t approve of, especially if it meant allowing them the right to live in Wales.


    1. I never met him, so I can’t argue with your first assertion.

      But I think the grounds for referring to him as a Welshman are quite firm. For one thing, he spoke Welsh fluently: with a heavily English accent, true enough, indicating that it wasn’t his first language, but it meant enough to him that he took the trouble. And for another, he had enough sympathy with those in the Welsh independence movement that he was prepared to write an extensive and very complimentary preface to a book by someone who, at the time, was one of the most prominent members of Plaid Cymru.

      In fact, he wasn’t just ‘prepared’ to write the preface: he wrote “when I heard [this] book was to be published, I asked to be allowed to contribute a foreword.”

      I feel I must also address your point about about Black Country people having the right to live in Wales. The most salient point in the Twitter thread that I wrote today was that immigration is not a bad thing in and of itself and not something that I am, or Gwlad are, opposed to; but it should be incumbent upon immigrants to become assimilated into their new country’s culture, and neither turn in upon themselves nor exclude the ‘host’ population from their own community.

      Alas, the single biggest problem caused by English immigrants into Wales is that so many of them are unwilling to do this. Those that do are warmly welcomed. If more Black Country immigrants into Wales followed Powell’s example – and gave Wales and its people the same level of respect that he wanted to see Commonwealth immigrants give to the Black Country – then things would be better all round.

      1. Spot on there Stephen. The prevalent attitude is one of superiority, a colonising mindset looking down on the “natives” their language, culture or anything else that differs in any way to how things were where the migrants came from. Hence my attitude is summed up as – “if things were so good back in Merrie England, do piss off back there !”

  2. I know he learned a load of different languages, something like 10 to 12 (?) to varying degrees of fluency – hardly the actions of a xenophobe if viewed in isolation. At the end of the day, if all the cultures of the world engage in multiculturalism we end up with a cultural ‘heat death’ for everyone, a morass of monoculture, an homogenised soup of humanity with no quirks or peculiarities to be found anywhere.

  3. My take on ‘the people’, society, ‘the common good’ etc is that altruism by its very nature has to tend to the self first. In other words, charity begins at home; the undertaking of acts of generosity or kindness to others flows from reactions and emotions experienced within the self, which is of course axiomatic.

  4. Still sight must not be lost of Powell being an ardent British nationalist and therefore as a figure he stood diametrically opposed to everything we are about as a movement.

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